Dr. Christina Rahm on Root Brand for Lyme

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Dr. Christina Rahm, Formulator at The Root Brand

Dr. Christina Rahm, Formulator at The Root Brand

Thank you so much, Dr. Christina, for coming on today. I really appreciate it. I’m really excited to hear about your journey with Lyme and then also your education and everything that you’ve been bringing based on your education and your background. You have so many different experiences. I’m excited to dive in. Can we start with your Lyme experience and how you got better and if you’re still struggling today and all that?

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Dr. Christina Rahm: Absolutely. I was 19 years old and in North Carolina, working. I think I was cleaning hotel rooms in the summer at a conference center. My dad wanted to teach me humility, so he chose that path for me. We would camp on the weekends and I got a bed of ticks. I ended up having, and I know we all have these different stories, but I had … I’m pretty old. This was, gosh, 30 years ago? I’m sitting here thinking how old I, 20? Yeah, 30 years ago. That was right before really Lyme was a big thing. I’m from a very small town in Missouri. I ended up having this bull’s eye, but they said that I had been bitten by a brown recluse.

I ended up having a very high temperature and feeling very fatigued, but I just kept thinking I was okay because she said that I would be okay and it got bigger and bigger and bigger. Then I ended up going to the movie theater and I fainted and I ended up in the ICU where they were doing spinal taps. I know we all have had bad cases, but it was a very fast case at the time. I had an infectious disease doctor that actually had written a lot about Lyme disease. He treated me with Rocephin IV that they put in my hands and then every vein in my arms collapsed. Then they put a shunt in, which I can still, of course, feel right here. They would come and administer it every day. I ended up losing my eyelashes and a lot of my hair. They tried all these different treatments to survive.

Mimi: How quick was that after you got bit?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Two weeks.

Oh, my gosh, that fast. Then how long had been you in the hospital?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I was in the hospital in ICU for two weeks.

Then they sent me home. I had a nurse come to me every day to do treatments. Every vein in my arm collapsed as I said, so they had to put the shunt in. I just didn’t react well. I was very sick. I ended up going back to college actually. That was in the summer. I went to college and they kept me on antibiotic treatments, but I was really sick. I look back and I lost my memory. I couldn’t remember my parent’s names. 

Yeah, it was pretty hard actually. My parents didn’t understand it. My dad made me go back to college and he insisted. It wasn’t his fault. He just didn’t understand it. But I went from having a photographic memory and to speed reading and just never studying for a test to not knowing two plus two. 

Do you know what I did which I think leads me to where I am today? I come from a family that you’re not supposed to … This is not bad, but they didn’t want me to cry. They wanted me to make it, right? They just kept saying I was fine, but I did have an excuse from the school. The doctor wrote the school, so I didn’t actually have to attend all the classes. I could go and take the test. I think they were really probably pretty lenient on me, but I went from being really good at science and math to not knowing and I think I, through that, learned somehow to reprogram my brain to think differently because, after that this is really odd, I didn’t remember and I still have not completely regained my basic science knowledge from high school because I was in honors’ classes. 

I never really have regained what I learned until that point. I had to basically relearn everything. I think I failed biology. I quit. I dropped out, so I wouldn’t fail, right? Because then you can drop at a certain point, but I haven’t thought about this in years. I was really sick. I think for about a period, if I’m really honest, three, four years, I struggled, getting sick a lot, being on antibiotics. I don’t know if you’ve had this, but I had just knots on all my joints like rheumatoid arthritis. They diagnosed me with rheumatoid arthritis. At the time, no one actually knew what to do.

I started really researching how to treat myself naturally at that point in alternatives because I just wanted to experience college. I actually ended up getting a graduate assistantship and going to graduate school, but I would be lying if I told you it didn’t impact me from a cognitive functioning perspective.

Mimi: Do all that science and memorization because I was a math major and I used to be able to do numbers in my head and all this quants stuff. To this day, I don’t have that ability anymore. I have to use a calculator. Before, I used to laugh at people that used to need a calculator. I’m just amazed that you could even get through those science classes, to get to a graduate program.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I didn’t do well. I went from being great at science and math to … This is the weirdest thing. They would give me these problems, I know this is going to sound bizarre, I would know the answer, but I couldn’t figure out how to get there. I still have that to this day. If you gave me a problem and said, a very complicated statistical analysis, I can’t talk, I would be able to come up with the answer really quickly, but if you ask me how did I get to that number, I have no clue. It’s like there’s a part of my brain still to this day that there’s this block, and if I said that didn’t depress me or upset me for a long time, I would be lying. There’s really never been anyone in my life, to be honest, to talk to about it because, at the time when that happened, I didn’t know anyone that has Lyme disease.

Mimi: I know. It’s becoming much more prevalent now. How did you ultimately feel better? What got you back in?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I really started, and I was talking about this before because I did this again when I got cancer. I drink a lot of spirulina, algae, did a lot of greens.

I did a lot of the detox baths where I would use different types of salts. Then you asked me how did I know about that, what I did was I started looking at inflammation because I understood how … I’m a scientist and I know that at that point I didn’t remember things, but I knew enough, and that you probably were the same way, that I didn’t know and I could start researching and learning and talking to people. 

I really think he somehow gave me so many things that it got rid of it for a while where I was exhausted. I still had arthritis, the knots, nodules everywhere. I was on a lot of prednisone. I don’t know what you were on when you first got it, but they put me on tons of steroids. I think I was even on methotrexate, which now as a scientist because I’ve worked with biotech and pharma, it’s horrible for your liver, your kidneys, your body. The things I was treated with, if I’m really honest, were horrible for me. They ended up using a type of chemotherapy because it was a different approach, which I don’t think they use that now, but basically, their goal was to destroy everything as you do with cancer. I don’t think they do that now.

Mimi: You worked in the pharmaceutical industry and then you switched over now to more of a holistic. Can you talk a little bit about your education and how it applied to your profession and how you’ve switched over now into more of-

Dr. Christina Rahm: I had a master’s of science and I got it in rehabilitation counseling which is basically its healthcare. It has to do with counseling patients in healthcare and you have to do a lot of science with that as well. It’s a very different kind of degree. It’s a mixture of biology, chemistry, counseling. It’s a lot of different stuff where you learn how to deal with healthcare. Through that, and I again worked for the school, so I was also teaching and doing things for the university, I started realizing I really wanted to do research in science even though I lost a huge chunk of that when I got Lyme disease. I think it made me understand how important it was to really do that.

I ended up getting a doctorate degree in counseling psychology after I got my master’s, but if I really think back, and this is the first time I’ve actually sat here and thought back on this, I don’t think I felt great for a period of six, seven years, I’m thinking now because when I was working on my doctorate degree, I started being able to remember more and I started feeling more like myself. I will tell you this, I went from doing that and focusing on science, doing talks for Pfizer on counseling on women and depression because that was a psychology focus and then ended up going actually into sales and marketing with Pfizer and that later led to me being in committees and then going into biotech and then going into the medical science and clinical science divisions.

Because of my degrees, they wanted me to be on the medical and clinical side. I did a lot in investigator-sponsored trials. Again, my focus though was understanding the pharmaceutical biotech and how it could improve things and then also understanding the nutraceutical side. I never left. I knew that the spirulina shakes, the ability to take different products had to do with curcumin as well as I did a lot of resveratrol, things like that. I became a vegan, just so you know, for a couple of years as well. I really tried to clean my body. I got a brain tumor after I had my son when I was pregnant with my first son. They are twins, and anyway, it metastasized cancer because I was pregnant with cancer and it went to my brain. I had prolactinoma and syringomyelia, melanoma, squamous, basal cell, a lot of different things.

Mimi: Do you think it attributed to Lyme or what do you think that came from?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I do, but the doctors were like “No, it can’t be from that.” In my heart and in my whole being, I absolutely believe that it came from Lyme disease. I a hundred percent believe that it contributed to my body because there’s no one else in my family and we have a family that’s had cancer when people are older, but never liked that. I also ended up having high blood pressure, which I think was from Lyme disease, but I really, through that, became, I think like you, very dedicated to researching and finding the answers on how to support my body and clean my body and get better.

That’s where I got started getting into detox because, in the biotech pharma world, they don’t talk about detox or nutraceuticals. In fact, a lot of pharmaceutical and biotech companies I worked with and we did studies and stuff, you couldn’t do nutraceuticals. You couldn’t mention them. You didn’t want patients on those during their therapies because your therapies had to be dedicated just to that drug or that molecule that you were treating things with.

I will tell you this because I have a combination of the pharmaceutical, biotech, and nutraceutical background, I believe it’s a combination of therapies between all of those worlds that worked the best. I think nutraceuticals can get to the root of the issue, but I also think there are times when the body just needs extra support and it may need a pharmaceutical product. I’m not one of these people that don’t like the pharmaceutical or biotech industry, I just believe people should be exposed to all of the things that they get. I’ve traveled to 84 countries, so I’ve had the ability, and because I’ve had Lyme disease, don’t think I don’t ask about Lyme disease everywhere I go because it’s something that impacted my life.

At one point, I thought I was going to die and I also, at one point, though I don’t care if I die because I was so sick and I lost one of the things that were the most important thing to me which was my ability to think and the second thing I lost that was really important to me was my energy. 

Mimi: You’re like, “What’s the point?” I think anybody who’s had chronic Lyme knows exactly the mental piece of it. It’s easy to give up, honestly, and especially if you don’t have an out and you don’t have a reason to live.

Dr. Christina Rahm: It’s really easy to give up and it’s really hard to talk to people about it because you don’t want to be negative. I can tell from just talking to you, the times we’ve been on the phone and then now you’ve got energy and you have a positive spirit and you want to do great things, but the reality is the reality.

Mimi: I had that Saturday morning. I called my doctor. I was in rough shape Saturday morning. I know we talked about this before. I honestly broke down. I was like, “I don’t know if I can do this anymore.” I’m like, “Honestly, I’m in so much pain. I’m done.” There’s not an answer. I don’t know how. It’s so hard and you think you’re doing everything right and then something triggers. You’re like, “What causes the trigger? Where’d this come from?” It’s a whole new symptom. I thought everything was worse and now it just made it worse. You’re like, “Can it get worse?” and then it gets worse and you’re like, “Oh, my God, I didn’t think it could get worse and it just keeps getting worse.”

Dr. Christina Rahm: Just keeps getting worse. I don’t like to complain, but sometimes I feel like a hypochondriac. The people you’re closest to, actually my significant other, my children, I don’t really talk about it to them.

Mimi: Because you don’t want them to feel like … Then when you can’t stand up and you’re not walking, they’re like, “What’s wrong, mom?” “Today’s the day I’m finally going to complain, I never complained, but I feel like I’m dying today. I don’t try to complain. I don’t want to complain, so I don’t unless it’s really like I can’t move.”

Dr. Christina Rahm: I know this is probably not the place to talk about this, but I’ve done colon therapies. I was doing things that people, my own family would think I was crazy. 

Mimi: I do coffee enemas. I think it’s one of my go-to. If I’m out of bed and go somewhere to a meeting or to something for school or something – that’s my go-to. That will get me out of bed and get me going.

Dr. Christina Rahm: Oh, my gosh, I need to be around people. You know what? That’s something I need to do. I need to be around people that have experienced what I’ve experienced because I don’t have anyone to talk to. I will tell you because I’m a scientist, I worked on formulas that my goal was Lyme disease. Actually, I don’t even want to say it’s Lyme disease. It was being able to feel okay to get up out of bed and do the goals and mission that I feel like I have in life and my mission, and you will probably understand this, in my mind is to heal and love. The reason I think that’s the case is I had Lyme disease. Before I had Lyme disease, my life was pretty great.

I will say, after Lyme disease, I ended up even in college after that, being in student government. We talked about that, being an officer and homecoming. I was very involved, but I also wanted to sleep sometimes for 16-18 hours. I didn’t talk about that, that I had this pass where because I had Lyme disease and kept getting sick. But there are also people that didn’t believe in Lyme disease.

Mimi: A lot of people don’t. They think it’s in your head, right? They’ll say, “There must be something going on.” I’m like, “Actually, no. I have a great life. I love my life. I’m not making this up. This is a complete hindrance to me.” This is not like, “Oh, I need attention.” I have a lot of things I want to do. I have a good life. I don’t need this. That’s, I think, a common theme in Lyme patients, is like people don’t believe you, especially when you go to the emergency room and you always come back negative and they’re like, “There’s something wrong with you.”

Dr. Christina Rahm: They say there’s nothing wrong. Another thing, I was 20 years old, so 19, I’ve got it when I was 19, I believe then I remember having a discussion with the doctor that it was sexually transmitted. I asked the question.

Mimi: I still think it is.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I still think it is as a scientist and I’ve studied a lot.

Mimi: How could it not be if it’s in the syphilis family and it’s in the blood? How could it actually not be? I don’t understand how … If it’s in the syphilis family, how could it not be?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I believe it is. There are people that say it’s transmitted to the children. I absolutely think it can be. There’s such a division there. I think the knowledge of Lyme disease has gotten better, but I’m not sure the acceptance has gotten better.

Mimi: I don’t think it is. Slowly this year, they finally acknowledged it and the government gave some money because of that senator that died. There’s a senator that died last year of Lyme disease. I think finally they’re realizing, “Wait, if she died, then there must be something going on,” so they gave money, but in general, no, I don’t think most doctors, conventional doctors, they think you’re crazy, all of us.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I believe it’s an environmental factor that causes these autoimmune disorders. I think one of the issues is people get Lyme disease and then they have other autoimmune disorders or cancer and no one’s connecting that they’re related, but I will tell you, so one of the products, I worked with Clean Slate and there are two other products coming out that I worked on where I really … Selfishly, one of my goals was to feel okay. I know the people that take that product sometimes they’ll take five or 10 in the morning, five or 10 at night. For me before and this is just me because you know how it feels like we talked about the coffee enemas, we talked about how you feel when you get up in the morning, if I really feel bad, I just drink half a bottle or a bottle of it. Then I will feel fine the next day.

I can’t tell people to do that because it’s not recommended. I think my body is so toxic because I really believe that when you have these biofilms and you have the spirochetes, I believe as a scientist, your body holds on to the more heavy metal. I believe your body holds on to more toxins in the body because it’s an unhealthy environment. Basically, it’s like if there’s a storefront and someone throws a rock through it and they’re trying to break in, then everyone can get into the storefront, everyone can rob everything because it already had a rock go through it and it’s broken. I think Lyme disease is a lot worse than what people think and that they’re willing to admit.

For me, it doesn’t go away, but there are long periods of time it gets better. I think that there are times that I have had a three-to-four-month period and I’ll just think I’m fine and forget about it and then it hits me.

Mimi: What are your triggers?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I have a lot. You’re talking about not being able to walk. This is going to sound real … I start getting very tired and very sore like I have the flu. Then I honestly, when I get out of bed, I have pin-like on my heels and my feet and it hurts my wrist to even be touch. It hurts. I become emotional. I want to cry. I just want to hide. My personality is not like that because I love being around my kids, I love being around my family and friends, but for me, it’s hard because I don’t believe people understand and I don’t believe it’s something, at least in my community, that’s socially acceptable to go out and talk about a lot.

Mimi: Now how did you get better from your cancer? Did you go conventional?

Dr. Christina Rahm: No, I took some zeolites. I’m really big into silicas or the silicic acid, aluminosilicate. If you look at the orthosilicates, there are all different kinds of stuff under it. Benzonite is one of them. I know it’s odd because you also have arsenic and fluoride that are part of those classes, but if you can get the right product made in the right way to really be able to detox the body and I got to tell you, I do a lot through the skin because I understand the skin is the largest organ. I worked for a company called Biogen that became Biogen Idec. As a scientist, I worked on scleroderma, sarcoidosis, pyoderma gangrenosum, psoriasis, all these skin disorders.

I know that when you have a skin disorder, you usually have an internal secondary or primary autoimmune disorder. Through that, you can have 80% of the products that you put on your skin can actually go and become systemic. I do a lot of clays, a lot of salts, a lot of oils. I don’t know how many oils you do, but I do a lot of the helichrysum, frankincense when I’m really sick, really sick, and I don’t want to tell anyone else to do this, but if you’re asking me, I use oregano in the bath. 

It hurts, but if I’m really sore in, let’s say, my wrist, I’ll rub it on there. I also use a lot of cloves. I got to tell you, for me, if it hurts really bad, I’ll also add the lavender to help calm it, but it works. It helps me. I say it works, I told you this before we started, I, also about every three months, will do Zithromax and fluconazole, Diflucan. I got to tell you, within a week when I do that, I feel significantly better, but the problem is it will come back. As you can see, I’m building up multiple approaches so that I can function normally during a period of the day.

Mimi: That’s great. Now, can you dive more into the three products that you mentioned that you were developing?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Yes, I actually have, since COVID, and I did work some on COVID … COVID is interesting to me because there are some similarities to me, COVID and Lyme disease.

When you have a virus, you can build multiple roadblocks, right? I don’t know how familiar you are with this, but if the people that have been successful at fighting HIV and HEP C, that continuously change their algorithm because you basically have to … I don’t know if you’ve ever done boxing, but you have to outsmart the environments, right?

That’s what it is Lyme disease, you have to continuously come up and that’s why people have asked me for example about Clean Slate, which is one of the products I worked on, that has orthosilicic acid and magnesium, and different product. Well, the new one has magnesium and trace minerals.

The old one has a vitamin C catalyst that helps basically communicate with the cells so that you can get rid of bad things in the cells and around the body, but I believe that you have to constantly change things up. It cannot be the same thing all the time. Because when we worked on viruses, in order to be successful.

Like COVID, Lyme disease is a disease that no one wants to believe and no one wanted to study and no one to treat. Thank goodness you had these brilliant infectious diseases doctors that understood it and understood that they needed to step in and treat it, but from my perspective, you’ve got to detox the body and you’ve got to get to the biofilm. You’ve got to try to break up everything that’s occurring. It’s not actually the spirochete in my opinion. It’s everything around that and was produced as a toxin that’s in the body. I really wanted to be able to use something that can continuously break it up. Clean Slate is one of the products.

I’ve probably worked on at this point, gosh, 30-40 formulas when it comes to detox with Lyme disease, but one of the reasons I allowed that one to be licensed because I have provisional patents around it and they’re following the final ones and I had some in the past as well, I wanted to be able to have a formula that was a basic that was out there, that could get out there immediately to as many people as possible, so that hopefully it could treat them and try to break up that cycle because you’ve really got to go in there and break it up. I think the company sometimes talks about taking it every day, but I think for Lyme patients, it’s important to take more than probably they’re telling people to take in order to feel better, but I also think it’s important to take a break for a little while. 

Once you start getting used to taking Clean Slate, a lot of people, have a hard time when they take that break. They’ll have a flare. I can tell you that that’s the problem when I stopped taking it for longer than two or three weeks. I’ll have a flare, so then I’ll have to take it. Really, I wanted a product that could go in and communicate to try to get rid of that in the body. You might say to me, “How does the product communicate?” Well, my background was biotech for years and we used human monoclonal antibodies to go in through an effusion, to communicate with the body to get rid of the bad cells that were sick.

I believe there’s a place and I think that … I don’t think. I know in other countries, they use different forms of silica as silver ions, zeolites, benzonites through IV formulas that they’re treating patients with Lyme disease.

There are some amazing clinics. I’ll have to get you the names later. I’ve visited a clinic in Norway and a clinic in the Netherlands that treat Lyme disease and they had an almost 100% success rate. They did cryotherapy. They get the salt baths. They use zeolite. They use orthosilicic acids and a lot of different things like that. I’m not one of these people that would ever say to you, “I have the answer and you need to take what I made or formulated.” You talked to me enough to know that I take different formulas that I never worked on. Do you know what I mean?

For me, it was really important, and then what happened really if you go back to the history of when I started working on detox, I did not I have never made money to date and I don’t think people know this yet. I haven’t made money off of a zeolite product or orthosilicic acid yet. I went into the lab that I worked on things that I think other companies used them probably, but from my perspective and you’ll understand this, I wanted samples of what I had made for me and for my family because I also know that it can help with the detox and the supplementation when you have cancer and I have a father that has cancer.

I didn’t care if I’m making money off of that because of two reasons. I’m a little frustrated because I haven’t, but I wanted to help people so they would feel better. You probably have felt this way sometimes. Sometimes, I wake up and think, we just talked about this a little while ago, “I just can’t do this, right? I don’t feel good. What if something ever happens, God forbid, and I’m not here, what do I want to give back to help people?” I know you do tons of stuff like that all the time, even these podcasts. It’s not unusual, especially and I’m not saying men don’t do this, but especially with women, I think that had been sick or had children that are sick, to do things for free just to give back.

Mimi: That charging when people are down and out.

Dr. Christina Rahm: Exactly. I think people have a hard time understanding me. I think that people would have a hard time understanding that’s the truth, but that’s the truth. There were about five, six years out there that I think there were different formulas that I had probably created. I never made money off any of them. I did it because I wanted to help people and I also wanted products for myself and my family because I believed that because I had Lyme disease, I have four children, that my children need to continuously detox.

Mimi: You have three products. The first one is the Clean Slate that you just talked about.

Dr. Christina Rahm: The second one is Zero In. One of the reasons that we made a second product is because we talked about this, I was a psychologist and I had such problems concentrating and being able to remember as well as the energy and the ability to … I was an athlete, and once I got Lyme disease, I didn’t even feel like running. I ran state and was a volleyball player and did all this stuff. For a while, I didn’t want to do anything. I didn’t want to get out of bed. Zero In has different ingredients in there that are basically triggering the neurotransmitters of the brain and fueling the neurotransmitters of the brain, so the brain is working more effectively.

I think since I’ve had Lyme disease, many times I need to jumpstart. Zero In is one of the formulas that was important to me to do that. Also, I have kids with ADHD. They have problems focusing.

Mimi: That helps, yes.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I’m not against Adderall and things like that, but my children have not been on it. When the teachers brought me to the office to tell me they needed to be on it, I just said, “No, they’re not going to be.” It’s one of the first products that has really helped my kids to the point that I hide the product because they want to take it all the time and they can, but you don’t need to take 10 of those a day. Everybody’s brain is different just like everybody’s body’s different. You probably have seen this with all the Lyme disease. You’re more of an expert on Lyme disease right now than I am because you’ve spent your life being dedicated to this, but everybody’s body’s different. The one thing though that the research people I’ve been exposed to with Lyme disease, cognitive functioning is a major thing.

Mimi: It’s a major part of them.

Dr. Christina Rahm: It’s a major part. I think when you have a flare, I don’t know how you are good, like I said a little bit earlier, I feel overwhelmed, tired, emotional. I don’t want to use the word depressed because I think it’s different than depression. I think it’s your-

Mimi: Also you just, the word recall and the short-term memory issues.

Dr. Christina Rahm: Even driving. Do you know that sometimes, this is horrible to say, but when I’m having a flare, I’ll think, “Where am I going?”

Mimi: “Do I turn left or right? Which side of the road am I on?” I’ve left my car running and I’ve got into lunch and come back out and my car still running. I forgot to turn the car off. You’re completely clueless.

Dr. Christina Rahm: My kids laugh about it. I joke too because I don’t want to get upset, but the truth is it’s from Lyme disease.

Mimi: Totally. The third product is coming out, right? What is that one?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Well, first of all, they’re going to do a revision, I think, of the first Clean Slate to add, because it’s really expensive to make some of these products, but I wanted to add traced minerals and magnesium. Again, going back to, “How can it help Lyme disease? How can it help people with autoimmune disorders?” I will continue, and you’ll see this, it’s like you, you’re continually trying to find answers and update the answers to help people. I’m the same way as a scientist. Instead of doing a podcast, I just go into a lab and make formulas, but it’s the same thing. We’re about helping people.

The third one is called Restore. I did some patents around making vitamins more bioavailable and then also taking lectin because lectin actually, which is part of the seed that can have toxins, but it can also get rid of negative things. For example, there is some research that shows that lectin, like apricot seeds, can help certain people that have Lyme disease. I wanted to keep the antitumor, antiallergenic, antiviral, antibacterial properties, and the lectin that get rid of all the toxic things that are harmful to the rest of the body like the organs. I did patents around that and I use those with Restore.

I also did patents around cold press methods. The reason I did that is a lot of people will take certain oils, plants, seeds, flowers and they become allergic to them. We touched upon that earlier. I wanted to take that part out so that people would not develop allergies if they use the product that I had or not. I don’t want to say it’s me that I worked on. I did patents around that. That was really important to me because again I have a lot of allergies. I think I always have, but I think they’ve been worse since I’ve had Lyme disease and my kids have a lot of allergies. My goal was to take basic ingredients like resveratrol and oregano oil and turmeric and things that people use, but can be negative for them as well. Their body can react against it.

Mimi: That’s great. Good. Now you’re working on a book as well. Can you talk about that as well?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Yes, it’s called Cure the Causes. The first 10 people that use the Lyme 360 will be able, if they go to the drchristinarahm.com website or they contact you, I’ll give a signed copy of the book. It is a book about getting to the cause and the root of the issues. It does touch upon all the different things that occur with Lyme disease and how to get toxins out of your body.

Mimi: That’s great. Then also, you wanted to address the website about the institute?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Yeah. I have been in a lot of societies in my career, from the American Oncology Organization Society to NASS, the neurosurgeon. I’ve been a professional member, a researcher. American Dermatology Association. I don’t know, a lot of them in my career. I started a while ago, the International Seed Science Society, but it was just focused on seeds. We moved on to the International Science Nutrition Society. We have newsletters. It’s not $19.95 a year, but the first 10 people again that mentioned this code will have a free membership into that society and you get newsletters. We do educational sessions and you get different things like an app. It’s researchscience.com.

Mimi: I’ll definitely post it with this podcast, both links so that people can visit and sign up and get your book. Thank you so much for the codes for the first 10 people. That’s awesome. Is there anything else that we haven’t covered that you wanted to do address or talk about?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I do. I addressed this in the book and I want to say this, life is difficult. It’s beautiful, but it’s difficult. You go to experts and they tell you, “You’re never going to get better,” or they tell you, “You’re fine,” when you’re not fine. One or the other, you know your body, so you know when you’re sick. One of the things, I’ve spent so many years in college studying science from nanotechnology at Harvard to Cornell. I think you’ve been to Cornell too in nutrition and also a pharmacy. I don’t know the answers. I just know some of the answers. I think that you guys have to know that if your body’s telling you you’re sick, you’re sick and it’s important to find the answers.

If someone finds the answers in one thing and it doesn’t work for you, then go to the next thing, but don’t give up because it’s really important. You have the only body you’re ever going to have. You got to take as much time and energy and not feel guilty about it, but learn to support your body and learn from people like you that are doing a podcast and not just from doctors and scientists like me because they have a little bit of the piece of the puzzle, they don’t have the answers to the whole puzzle. 

Mimi: It’s not a quick fix. I don’t think there’s not one pill, there’s not one, and unfortunately, it’s not the same for everybody. What works for you might not work for me and that makes this so complicated, I feel like. What makes it frustrating, this is what I was venting to my doctor this weekend was because he wants me to go see another Lyme doctor. The problem is every Lyme doctor you go to has a different set of supplements or a different set of criteria or a different path. It’s like it’s crazy how many different paths there are and different supplements.

Even if they might have the same path, they’re using different supplements, and that they don’t like that quality of supplements. They want to tell you this. Then you wind up with 20 baskets of supplements from the 20 different doctors that you went to that you never finished, right? It’s just hard.

Dr. Christina Rahm: It’s everywhere I have lots of supplements, but it’s exhausting and you want to give up. I think you just have to love yourself enough never to give up and sometimes that’s hard when you’re emotional. I can tell you’re a strong woman and I am a female and I’m strong. I think it’s another thing whether you’re a man or a woman. It’s really hard not to give up sometimes, but you just have to keep going and find the answers. The answers might change and you know this. You may do well on a treatment for a while and then it doesn’t work. 

Here’s the issue with Lyme disease. Your HIV community has a list of things that work, that you can live 30, 40, 50 years and you’re fine and you’ve got major pharmaceutical companies behind it. This Lyme disease, we don’t have that.

Mimi: Nothing’s covered by insurance, so you’re already going on your own path with your own dime.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I have a question, why is that? I haven’t spent enough focus because I’m always working on science projects and doing different things. Why haven’t the pharmaceutical industries approach this as they have for everything else?

Mimi: I don’t know. Maybe they don’t think there are enough numbers, enough people diagnosing it with proper diagnosing, I don’t know.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I think one of the reasons is, this is just my theory, is because it takes such a different targeted path in each person that gets Lyme disease and I think there are so many versions out there. I think it is gradual and silent in many ways. A lot of people don’t have symptoms for a while. 

Mimi: You have the perfect storm of not sleeping or losing your memory

Dr. Christina Rahm: Did you ever lose your memory completely?

Mimi: I have to write everything down. I won’t remember anything. I used to be able to remember my to-do list for the day, not anymore. I forget to even look at my to-do list usually. It’s terrible. You also wanted to talk a little bit about some clothing you did for ticks.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I did. That’s going to come out with ABCs for Life and ABCs for Animals. I meant to have that. I actually developed something which is an alcohol detox metabolizer for spirits under that, but then I did a clothing line, which I worked on when I was at Harvard which is using different types of nanotechnology that are infused to basically kill ticks and kill ticks around that surrounding area when you wear the clothing line. We used different types of silver and gold nanoparticles as well as I infused different formulas in there of different orthosilicic and aluminosilicates as well as silver ions. We used technology, so it would be embedded into it, and then we’re sewing.

If you want to wash the clothing, after you wash it four times, you’re going to have to spray more on there, so that’s embedded again and then you have to heat it. There are like directions on it.

Mimi: That’s great. I have a question about that. It brought me up again, do you think people have a tendency to have ticks than other people? Is there a blood type or smell or something? The reason I bring it up is no matter where I go, I always get ticks, right? One time I was in Wyoming and I was taking … We went to one of those ranches. I was like, “I’m not going into the woods,” and the guy’s like, “No, we don’t have ticks here. Don’t worry.” I’m like, “Really I just am super uncomfortable.” He’s like, “Don’t worry.” I’m like, “Okay,” so we drive into the woods. We were just taking pictures. I took pictures and get back into the golf cart and I was covered with ticks. I go, “See, there are ticks here.” He looked at me, he goes, “I have worked here for 15 years. I’ve never seen a tick.” I’m like, “There must be something in my blood that they smell it and they jump on me. I don’t know what it is.” It just made me think that there must be something like attracting them.

Dr. Christina Rahm: What’s your blood type?

Mimi: I’m AB.

Dr. Christina Rahm: I’m O negative, but this is what’s I’m getting ready to say, there are certain people that excrete pheromones. Do you know how you hear about pheromones that have to do with people liking each other? There are also certain people that are tracked because of their DNA and who they are. There’s going to be more and more stuff coming out about this over the next 10 years, two to three years.

Most people would O negative, O, it’s a theory, some scientists agree, some don’t, that if you get it, if you have O negative or O positive, then you’ll be able to get rid of it and they have not as many deaths, the people that have it. I think well, your O negatives are genetical, one of the scientific theories is they’re like cavemen, right? The ones that basically will make it through the most, throughout their lives, but I was going to tell you, I went into the woods. I’m just like you. I went to the woods. Clayton was with me and I go out there and I said, “I don’t want to get out,” because it was a new area by the lake. The lady was like, “Oh, no, it’s okay. You won’t get anything.”

I was so paranoid, and this did not happen long ago, I think about two months ago, I did not want to get out of the car. I feel so bad because I grew up in the country. I rode horses. I was around animals, but I did not want to get ticks because I’m sure I would think everyone that has Lyme disease is like this, “I do not want to be around ticks.” I get out there, go home, getting ready to get in the bath, they’re all over me. Clayton had zero. Nothing on him. I had them everywhere, under my bra. I had bites-

Mimi: Were they attached?

Dr. Christina Rahm: Yes. I was so upset about it. Only two were attached, but they were everywhere. I literally was so poor. Nothing happened. I haven’t had any kind of-

Mimi: Did you take antibiotics then right afterward?

Dr. Christina Rahm: I did.

Mimi: I tell people that now, anybody who’s listening if you get bit, your skin is punctured, do it.

Dr. Christina Rahm: My thing is I think when you take an antibiotic, you should take an antifungal at the same time. I really believe that because when you kill bacteria, fungus proliferates. I can tell you, so I’ll give you an example, when you have parasites in the GI, if you have fungus, they breed because they love to live in the fungus. If your body is a fungus, I believe that spirochetes and everything just breeds and just keeps growing. I think you’ve got to get rid of the fungus in your body. I’m just one of these because I studied this for a while in my 20s. I think it’s really important to get … Fungus is one of the things that cause cancer. It’s really important because otherwise, you’re taking an antibiotic, you’re killing the bacteria, but the fungus proliferates. It grows.

It’s one of the things I don’t think they educate doctors on when they’re in medical school, is that fact. Now when you’re in the pharmaceutical biotech on the science side, you know that, but I don’t think routinely … The pharmacy knows, if I have an antibiotic, I have to have an antifungal. Again that’s just me personally, but it does have to do with my knowledge scientifically about what happens in the body as well. Your infectious disease doctors, a lot of them do understand that if you have a really good infectious disease doctor.

Mimi: That’s great. Well, Dr. Christina, this has been amazing. I really appreciate it and I’m excited to try all three of your products and read your book when it comes out. Thank you so much.

Dr. Christina Rahm: Thank you. I want you to be in the science society because we need people that are really dedicated to science and nutrition.

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